Derek Acorah/Pronounciation

[DawnRazor]

Some of us were talking about MH over the weekend and a discussion ensued regarding Mr. Acorah. The issue was about his pronunciation of information he is given by 'Sam' his spirit guide. The debate was why he has difficulty pronouncing the information if Sam is actually telling him it. Surely if Sam is speaking to him that Derek would be able to recite the information exactly as given rather than saying "How do I pronounce that Sam" - there were a couple of incidents of this on Tuesday's programme.

One incident of this on Tuesday was his mispronunciation of Margaret D'Anjou (which Richard Felix brought up at the end of the programme) - surely if Sam had come out with this name and given it to Derek, then Derek would have pronounced it correctly? Or does Sam himself have difficulty pronouncing stuff himself?

A little bit fishy if you ask me - almost as if it's being read from a book!??

Any comments??

[JimTheMuso]

Come on Dawn. We are talking Derek. Just about EVERYTHING about him is fake as discussed on most other forums.
Jim.

[heofspirit]

Hi all, from my point of view, I find it hard at times to understand names when given to me thru spirit, it's a bit like a bad phone line, you don't always get it the way you would like to.

This is an observation I've made with Derek Acorah and several mediums, so it's not a situation totally attributed to Derek Acorah, it seems to be the same for many mediums.

I myself, as a developing medium have this problem personally, but i have always put it down to my lack of experience in this area.

Perhaps Darren, if he reads this, would care to pass comment as a professional in the field.

Welcome aboard Jim, by the way

[Lauraakafoxy]

Yes the voice may not be very clear or the information comes in bits as Heof said.
Maybe it could be that the voices are on a differant frequency? Like on a lot of EVP's? I dont know - just a guess but i do believe in Dereks abilities.

[Gandalf]

Like many I also doubt the abilities of Mr Acorrah, knowing that a lot of the places he visits with Most Faked - sorry Haunted he has visited before. A lot of these you can see on his personal website.

We were told that at one MHL event the partner of one of our members went to the loo and DA was sitting in there reading up on his notes for the show, although this is only hearsay and I don't really know if its true or not.

I think the only way it could be proved that DA is truthfull is for him to go on an investigation to a place that we know he could know nothing about with a small group that new all about the place, but that aint gonna happen i guess

[heofspirit]

I think placing any medium on a paranormal investigation is detrimental to the medium concerned, whether it is Derek Acorah or whoever.

From a skeptical point of view,it's simple, if the medium comes up with documented evidence, names,etc, he has probably researched it, or been 'fed the information' beforehand.

If he comes up with new information and it cannot be confirmed, then he/she is making it up.

The medium can't win with the skeptics, they will always find a way to speculate over the medium's validity, normally to the detriment of the medium concerned.

The only real way of 'testing' a medium is on a one to one basis.

Tell him nothing and see what happens then judge for yourself about the information given.

Then make your own mind up.

[nenden]

You have made it irresistable for me not to answer...lol There are a lot of people loosing interest in MH, it is not hard to see why.
Derek I do not think is doing himself any favours by doing MH. The reason being is this. A friend of mine went to see him recently in Manchester, she said he was nothing like he is on the TV. I asked why, how do you mean. She replied " well, on MH, he always comes out with their name if their name is known. He always gives a first and second name. But, he hardly came out with a name and when he did say one he got it wrong! " I said, " well I will leave it to your imagination how that works! " Her reply to that was, I do not believe that he knows what he is talking about and not just me but other people were saying on the way out that they are no longer going to watch MH. "

I am slightly different in my mediumship in the respect that I tend to give a description of the person I am communicating to. I think it is much more unigue that give a name. If a name comes once I have given my description then I will give it.

I can no say anything other about DA, my feelings with the way he runs his mediumship are not fit to post for you wonderful folk.

If spirit give us a name of any word for that matter we are proned to getting it wrong. It happens for no apparent reason but hopefully the reading has been full of proof so when some thing is slightly said wrong it can be over-looked..

Take care everone.

Nenden.

[jules]

i know when they did pychic live on living tv

The word "clutching at straws" came to mind

i can't see how when there is an audience of hundreds only 2 or 3 people get picked

like when i went to see colin fry being recorded he says he comes to the people who's need is greatest

this isn't sour grapes because i wasn't picked honest

we had granny come thru to say the flowers are lovely this year

but nothing about the massive stroke my mum was about to have and the fact that within a year she would be dead which all could have been avoided if i had known

so obviously granny flowers were more important than my mum's life

now i know it isn't up to a medium to save my mum's life

and there were people in that audience desperate for contact with there relatives

it just didn't make much sense to me really

julie

[Jamescp]

As there are good and bad builders, so there are good and bad mediums.

The truth will come from those who are practising for the NEED of giving and healing, and not from those with the WANT of financial gain or inflated egos.

A poor or fake medium, or even one who pads out the information, is only setting the cause back.
It is also true that information can be crystal clear one day and another time may be confused as if you have a crossed line.
As we're working on higher frequencies, this will sometimes occur.
Spirit contact is like a muscle that must be used in order to be working in the best condition.

James

[PollyAnna]

my views on most haunted in general have changed a lot. I used to be very in awe of it now im not so sure.
The thing is its ultimately a tv programme - for entertainment. so while they may get some good hard evidence and as good as DA may be, its always going to be tainted by the fact that its an entertainment programme. On investigations in rhe past we have got nothing, not even a squeek out of me and jules and we usualy get a bit spooked from time to time. But theirs always something happening on MH - to make good telly.
Thats why im not entirely sure about DA - i dont doubt he has got some abilities, but im just not sure how far they actualy stretch and wether we are seeing an exagerated version of him and what he can do.

[rhiaaswan]

What I have read about mediumship and spirit guides communicating, is that when information is received the voice is on a higher frequency, some describe as sounding chipmonk like.
To get the spirit guides information through clearly sometimes a medium will go into trance state and allow their guide to speak through them, using the mediums body. The medium is not "possessed" but meerly side steps to allow messages to come through.
After the trance session meduims claim to have no recollection of what was said. While in trance state their voice can completely change, and sometimes they will speak in another language, not spoken by the medium,

[idaho]

unfortunatly not just with derek a medium is only as good as there last message i am sure that there are many out there who have given fantastic bits of information names dates etc but if the recipiant of the message cant take itat that moment it does not mean that you were wrong if they do not understand they should tell you there and then so you go go back and check and get it right as mediums can interpritate it wrong.

[mandy]

pollyanna said:

my views on most haunted in general have changed a lot. I used to be very in awe of it now im not so sure.
The thing is its ultimately a tv programme - for entertainment. so while they may get some good hard evidence and as good as DA may be, its always going to be tainted by the fact that its an entertainment programme. On investigations in rhe past we have got nothing, not even a squeek out of me and jules and we usualy get a bit spooked from time to time. But theirs always something happening on MH - to make good telly.
Thats why im not entirely sure about DA - i dont doubt he has got some abilities, but im just not sure how far they actualy stretch and wether we are seeing an exagerated version of him and what he can do.

I agree with this. It must be frustrating for a medium to "perform" for camera and wonder whether Derek feels pressure to exaggerate to get his point across. I really want to believe him but have found that sometimes when he is cornered he cannot answer questions or changes the subject.

For example, he had been "possessed" somewhere to do with aeroplanes, Maes Artro or East Kirkby maybe, can't remember. He was a pilot and Ciaran I think asked him a real easy question if you was a pilot about the plane he was flying an Derek answered something of the lines of " you shouldn't need to ask me that" type of thing and again wriggled out of giving the answer.

Although I am a believer, this sort of thing gives Matthew Smith lots of ammo to bring him down.